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Woohoo! I got $.70 from AT&T Universal Card/Citibank as my "Schwartz Settlement Refund". The lawyers who pressed the class action suit got $7.2 million, but who can begrudge them when they worked so hard to get me a refund that will fully cover the cost of my next two sodas from the company vending machine? I like soda, after all.

heh -

Date: 2003-12-11 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anneth.livejournal.com
class actions are all about the principle of the thing, donchaknow? Your $.70 is one of a million slaps in the face of some evil corporate entity! Right? Right?


Yay kitties!

Re: heh -

Date: 2003-12-12 07:15 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] andyhat.livejournal.com
Given that there's apparently something like $25 million left in the settlement fund after lawyer's fees, I guess it's more like 30 million+ slaps in the face. Still, when you think about how much money Citibank has made in fees over the years on that many cards, I think it's more like a gentle tickle on the face.

Re: heh -

Date: 2003-12-12 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anneth.livejournal.com
true, kind of a 'I fart in your general direction' sort of thing, then.

Date: 2003-12-11 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pnew8.livejournal.com
We got forty-four cents. Not even enough for one soda, unless it was some generic brand that they sell in the machines outside of Wal Mart and, really, those aren't sodas now are they? I'm hard pressured whether forty-four cents will buy anything. Maybe penny candy that costs a quarter at the VP.

Date: 2003-12-12 07:17 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] andyhat.livejournal.com
The vending machine in the office is subsidized, so I can get a real Diet Pepsi for only $.35 :)

Date: 2003-12-12 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pnew8.livejournal.com
Our vending machines at work are subsidized too, but not as much as yours. I don't believe they offer Diet Pepsi though and the only iced tea has lemon in it. More than fifty cents for them though.

Date: 2003-12-12 02:58 am (UTC)

Refund

Date: 2003-12-17 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
At least you guys got over a quarter. I got a refund from citibank for a whole $0.16.

-Jay

Date: 2003-12-17 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I found this post trying to figure out what this refund thing was all about. I got ya all beat, 0.07.

Date: 2003-12-17 02:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] andyhat.livejournal.com
For many years, Citibank and AT&T Universal (now owned by Citibank) had a policy of charging late fees if your minimum payment wasn't received by 10am on the due date. So, lots of people over the years mailed payments that got there on the due date, but not by 10am, and got hit by $15 or $20 late fees. In addition, since any payment not received by 10am wasn't posted until the following day, anyone carrying a balance had to pay an extra day's interest, which is why they decided so many people are entitled to tiny little refunds.

As a result of the lawsuit, Citibank now credits payments up to 1pm on the day received. In other words, a bunch of lawyers made a bunch of money to get them to barely change their policy.

For more info, see the last two pages of this PDF or this entry from Jeffrey Cross's blog for more info.

I believe policies were similar at many other issuers, so expect more tiny settlements in the future.

Date: 2003-12-24 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ferrousoxide.livejournal.com
What's interesting about your explanation, is that this CBS news article says that the refund is for charges assessed on charges made in foreign countries. Wonder which is the real explanation?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/04/09/national/printable548446.shtml

FeO

Date: 2004-01-16 11:06 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] andyhat.livejournal.com
Same plaintiff name, but, as I recall, this one is still under appeal. And besides, it's a case against Visa and Mastercard themselves, not just Citibank.

Date: 2004-01-20 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ferrousoxide.livejournal.com
Ah, I see. I was just assuming that this was the same case and that Visa/Mastercard had been named as co-defendants along with Citibank.

FeO

Check

Date: 2003-12-18 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I wish I had gotten a check. I got a statement for a .23 credit for a credit card I carry only as backup. I quit using the card when I found one (1st USA, now BankOne)that you can call and make a payment on the due date and it posts on the due date for FREE.

Who does this help?

Date: 2003-12-18 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"I got .17!" - "I got $1.65" - "I got a rock". Actually I got 13 cents.
But if the lawyers pocketed over $7 million, who is really paying for that $7 mil? The cynical side of me says that eventually the average joe is, through higher fees for services that will offset the cost of the settlement. I mean Citibank had it coming. I've never understood how they calculate my bill sometimes - I always pay the whole balance before the due date, yet one time when my balance showed zero I got a bill for something like 43 cents in interest, so I paid that, didn't use the card at all in the billing cycle, and then had a bill for something like 7 cents the next month.

sniff

Date: 2003-12-19 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Though I feel like I am the chosen Home Coming King with a $0.81 refund (higher than most of you, I am so unworthy) Still it is the camaraderie with you fellow refudies that I will charish forever.... (choking up) you guys (voice breaking) take care! forever... Kevin

Date: 2003-12-22 12:23 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I am so...touched...that I found this Schwartz Settlement Refund support group. I started, uhm, "using" the Citibank card several years ago. OK, many years ago. I am proud to say that I got $0.44 out of the class action suit, which honestly is not enough to buy candy, soda, coffee, or a shoe shine on the street corner.

if you feel like kickin' 'em in the shins...

Date: 2003-12-22 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
call the 800 number: 800-558-5854 and request more information by mail, that will at least eat another .34 or whatever the bulkmail postage rate happens to be..

plus it helps keep your postman employed...

Date: 2003-12-24 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I got a whopping $.03 settlement refund on my Citi card and was wondering what this was all about. (I actually use the option to have them deduct my entire balance from my checking account on the due date, so I never get late fees anyway. So there, too.)

Schwartz did us all a favor

Date: 2004-01-11 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If there weren't attorneys who had the ability to fight law breakers like Citi/ATT Universal they would be out of control. And the world thought Hitler was a force to contend with. Try CITI. Unbelievable!!!
Get new credit cards, MBNA and Discover are light years ahead in service and what they offer.

Re: Schwartz did us all a favor

Date: 2004-01-11 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Be sure to cash your checks gang. Otherwise CITI will not incur all the expenses that it should. Remember, they are ruthless, try being late or losing your job or be sick. You are done!!!

Hopefully, some bright and energetic team of attorneys will take them (CITI) down completely and do the entire planet a favor.

Personally I think that Citi got away with it cheap. The attorneys were worth far more than they received. Don't forget, they too have expenses and they ran high. And they workied for all credit card holders and if we are all intelligent, we will cancel this card and opt for better companies. After all how many finance charges and late fees did you receive that might not have happened if they posted payments as they were received.

Call now to cancel your credit cards and obtain cards from other companies.

Schwartz Refund

Date: 2004-02-26 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
We are all pawns in a game of white collar crime! A few lawyers squeezed $7.2 Million out of Citibank and they used your name to do it! I say LET'S GET THOSE BASTARDS!!!! It's time to put lawyers in their place. What are you going to do about it????


You're all worthless and weak!

Date: 2004-02-26 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Are you all so stupid that all you can see is that you got a few cents and that some evil company was actually taking a few more cents from you than they should have? True, it was wrong for Citibank and whoever else to take an extra 48 cents from me over the 5 years that I had a card with them, but does that entitle some scumbag lawyers to take 7.2 million from Citibank? Have you ever thought about why Citibank settled instead of fought it out in court? Because they knew they were wrong in cheating millions of people out of a few pennies each. Those lawyers knew it too. That's why they grabbed $7.2 Million and gave you back a few pennies. Citibank doesn't give a rats ass about it because they know they'll make it back from the same people who got the few pennies. TRIAL LAWYERS SUCK! and this is why


Date: 2004-03-03 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
.70 is not bad... I got .14!!!

Date: 2004-03-26 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Guess I can be the big spender or maybe retire. I got $1.67
Kind of like a lottery ticket that you have hit 5 numbers but so have 200000 other people so you wind up with a couple of bucks. Indeed the lawyers are the ones who got the payoff and ironicaly if they had the AT&T card they probably even got another 0.15 or 0.20 cent on top of the fees.

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